Hybrid Athlete Alex Viada – So You Want to Run and be Strong?

So You Want to Run and be Strong?  (Part 1)

By Alex Viada

Alex Viada practices what he preaches

Endurance training and strength sports are not two things that typically go together.  Most of the strongest people you know probably aren’t out there running marathons.  The training required to excel at either end of the spectrum is only part of the reason; there’s also the issue of body type, the fact that running and lifting tend to appeal to very different sorts of reward centers in the brain (“I love that runner’s high that kicks in around mile 20…”  said no powerlifter ever), and that fundamentally strength and endurance athletes tend to not have much in common other than arguments over whether or not a squat suit and Chuck Taylors look any more or less ridiculous than men’s neon booty shorts and black and yellow Kayanos.

Despite the above, the fact remains there is a percentage of strength focused trainees that are interested in distance running (which will be the example for building endurance I’m using in this article).  They may desire the heart health benefit, or they may want to be able to climb up a few flights of stairs without feeling quite so winded.  Perhaps they need to run a certain distance at a certain speed as a job requirement (police officers etc.).  Their coach may want them to.  Maybe they are just completely bat**** crazy and so alpha that they can’t tolerate not being good at everything.  Regardless, the purpose of this article is to show you there’s hope.  You CAN serve two masters and improve your cardiovascular fitness without compromising strength.  It just takes careful planning and a working understanding of the physical adaptations you’re going for.

When I started marathon training a number of years ago I watched my 700 pound deadlift plummet.  I simply could not recover.  I lost muscle, I was sore 24/7, I got stress fractures and shin splints and I still wasn’t a very good runner.  Fast forward to now, in the next six months I’ve got an Ironman, an ultramarathon, and at least one powerlifting competition planned and I can safely say I’m on pace to smash PRs at all of them.  What did I change?  Nothing earth shattering, I just stopped pretending to be superhuman and realized that just working harder wasn’t the answer.  With less room for error, I needed to, well, make fewer errors.

What’s your goal?

This is the most important question you need to ask yourself.  What is it you’re trying to achieve by incorporating running or some sort of serious cardio into your routine? Is it just to improve aerobic capacity? If so, are you looking for sports-specific aerobic capacity? Developing the ability to run long distances won’t help you in the farmer’s walk, so make sure you understand what it is you’re trying to achieve.

The best way to serve two masters is to keep their needs as separate as possible by understanding your recovery and energy systems.

Two of the best CrossFitters in the world, Matt Chan (R) and Rich Froening (L) showing that you can be very aerobically fit and quite strong

Understanding your recovery and energy systems.

No, I am not about to launch into a poorly worded explanation of glycolysis, the electron transport chain, the Krebs cycle, or any other such first year bio class presentation that seems to be mandatory in fitness writing.  I won’t insult your intelligence or underestimate your ability to use Google and Wikipedia.

I DO want you to understand the order in which energy substrates are used by the body.  ATP and creatine phosphate are used during short, intense bursts of activity (5-15 seconds of actual activity), glucose for medium duration activity (20 seconds to a minute or two), and fat stores once effort is extended out beyond that.  I also want you to understand that this is a continuum.  Technically all of these systems are being used at all times.  It is the relative contribution of each that varies depending upon demand.

Contrary to what many think glucose levels are rarely a limiting factor during heavy lifting.  The energy system is simply not utilized to any significant degree.  If you are glycogen depleted you can still lift quite heavy, you will just need to take longer breaks to allow your body to resynthesize short term energy substrates at a slower rate than a well-carbed athlete.  This is an important fact to remember if you’re contemplating how you can do a long run one day and lift heavy the next.  It’s not really the lack of energy that will hinder your lifting the next day so much as actual muscle and mental fatigue which have more to do with microtrauma/extended time under tension than energy substrates.


Adaptation is the primary sticking point for most folks.  Running makes you smaller and weaker which conflicts with the entire point of your lifting, right?  This is true to an extent. One of the body’s adaptations to aerobic exercise is actually size REDUCTION of certain muscle fibers which makes them proportionately more efficient (by increasing relative blood flow, among other things). There are two caveats, however.  First, the reduction in size occurs in type I fibers only.  These fibers are not major contributors to heavy lifting.  Second, this can actually be PREVENTED.

So, how do you avoid these unwanted adaptions? Number one is to start your recovery at the table.  Running burns up a lot of your energy, there’s no way around this. You may notice that your lifting seems to suffer almost immediately.  This is NOT muscle atrophy, as mentioned earlier.  It is a combination of local fatigue and a lack of energy substrates.  You can greatly mitigate this problem by eating.  Eat to replenish and eat to recover.  Do not ever run for weight loss if you’re looking to maintain muscle.  At the very least you need to be taking in enough calories to compensate for the cardio workouts.  While on the topic, this “anabolic window” people talk about that leads them to pound protein shakes and carbs after lifting is vastly overstated for strength trainees.  However, in the case of running this IS in fact key, not for growth purposes, but to make sure you’re topping off your glycogen stores (which will be as depleted after 15 minutes of running as they are after two hours of lifting) and returning your body to an anabolic state in time for your next workout.

Keep your glycogen stores topped off

Routine Structure

Structure your routine to allow for maximum recovery.  More on this in the sample routine below, but long story short you need to understand how different types of running can hinder your lifting.  Sprints and hill climbs are the worst offenders.  They heavily engage your type II muscle fibers.  To be clear, do not sprint unless you have to when trying to increase distance running ability while maintaining absolute strength.  To bust a bit of a myth, if you are a serious strength athlete sprinting will NOT build leg strength.  The force exerted by even an Olympic level sprinter during acceleration does not remotely compare to the forces exerted during heavy squats or Olympic lifting.

You may have seen articles telling people to do “speed work” to improve your explosiveness.  If you’re a lifter who already incorporates dynamic effort work of any sort you are getting plenty of this. The real benefit to this sort of work would be in improving overall speed and pace during the run, but as a strength athlete, you need to approach this with care since being too aggressive here will not help you.  For the most part, the less you are demanding of your type II muscle fibers during your running the more they’ll be in top shape for your lifting.

This loops back to why tire flips are a waste of time unless you’re training for, well, tire flips.  In this example, you’re fatiguing your upper body musculature which negatively impacts your strength with little or no incremental benefit to your aerobic conditioning.  Yes, it’s hard, but if you’re hell bent on pain just for its own sake head down to your local Crossfit box and run through Murph, twice.  Then take a sledgehammer and use it to break your toes. Better yet, do that in reverse order. If you want to improve your work capacity on the bench, then bench.  If you want to be better at running, then run.  Be specific.  Your body certainly is.  Now, if your chosen sport requires similar motor recruitment patterns and performance patterns to tire flips then do them (Football O-line?  Sure. A Muay Thai competitor?  Not so much unless you want to improve your ability to pick your opponent up off the mat and hand him to the medics).

So what sort of routines should you do?

My preferred system for maintaining or building strength while engaged in any sort of serious cardio is a Westside based complex/parallel program.

There are two chief, relevant advantages to Westside’s method:  The first is that it allows for daily adjustments to movements.  Other systems like 5/3/1 and standard linear progression systems do not allow for rotating recovery.  Having the option to rotate your max effort lifts while incorporating speed work reduces the chance of developing overuse injuries or glaring imbalances that you may incur if you were squatting moderately heavy twice a week (every week) while running.  You are already going to be engaged in repetitive activity, and having a program tailored towards eliminating weak links week after week while avoiding overuse is a major advantage.  The second primary Westside advantage is that it is structured on the premise that you are juggling multiple types of training and attempting to blend these into one big constant training cycle which is precisely what we’re trying to do here.

For running I’ve adopted a somewhat minimalist approach based on block periodization with the understanding that for heavier folks running is a VERY technical exercise. A decent, well-practiced stride can pay huge dividends in energy expenditure.   Start out with your basic long distance, low intensity aerobic conditioning on one end of the spectrum and pure form drills on the other, and as you progress begin to combine the two into moderate distance runs culminating with race pace training.

By minimalist I mean that my overall running volume is relatively low compared to most athletes.  I usually manage this by reducing “junk” miles. Every run, just like every gym session, should have a purpose.  You should be going out there with a goal in mind.  It could be to run a greater distance than last time, or to practice eating while running (useful for longer distance runners), or perhaps to set a new PR on pacing for the first mile.  In other words, don’t just say “I’m going out for a mile or two”; think about what you’re going out to do that will make you a better runner.  And, honestly, if you’re not feeling it, decide if it’s better to push through it or just go home and hit it twice as hard the next time. You strength folks know about intuitive training in the gym.  You have to know when to hold ‘em and when to fold ‘em.

So how does this look?

This is probably the main reason you came here.  Assuming you’ve taken the above advice and adopted a Westside style ME/DE upper/lower split for your strength training the following template shows how you might combine it with running:

Day 1: ME upper body/bench, light recovery run

Day 2: REST

Day 3: ME lower body, speed/interval work

Day 4: Short race pace run

Day 5: DE upper body, running form drills

Day 6: DE lower body

Day 7: Long slow distance run

The rationale is as follows:

Starting with day 1 your heavy upper body work will not fatigue your lower body, and a light, relatively short distance slow pace run will be easily handled. These may seem like “junk miles” (running for the sake of running with no real benefit or goal in mind), but in reality recovery runs are critical.  They are NOT meant to fatigue, they are just meant to shake out the tightness.  Day 2 is pure rest.  It is absolutely critical as day 3 is your heaviest leg day of the week (where you want to be at your highest level of recovery).  Note the speed/interval work directly afterwards.  This may seem counterintuitive since your legs are already smashed, but for all intents and purposes this workout will be taxing the same muscle fibers you just beat to hell.  Simply put, it is better to condense this into a single workout and not be destroying yourself twice a week.

Day 4 should be a very short run focusing on good form and solid pacing (and helping your legs loosen up after heavy lower body).  Day 5 combines upper body with running technique work which would include exercises such as repeats, strides, pacing practice, quick feet/high knee drills or other accessory work.  These are CRITICAL.  You NEED to be doing form work particularly if you’re not a lifelong runner.  Good form can make the difference between completing a marathon or crapping out at mile ten with a stress fracture and leg cramps (more on this in a later article.)  Day 6 is lower body speed work (the drills from day 5 did not appreciably fatigue your nervous system) and day 7 is your pure aerobic long and slow run of the week (this is where you increase your mileage the most as you progress).

Or, to sum up:

System Component Day 1 Day 2 Day 3 Day 4 Day 5 Day 6 Day 7
CNS High None High None Low Moderate Low
Mental Focus High None High None Moderate Moderate Low
Energy Substrates Low None Low Low Moderate Moderate High
Trauma Moderate None High Low Moderate Moderate Low

CNS = central nervous system fatigue, i.e. how momentarily taxing a workout is.  The term CNS is used here as a convention.  There are no absolute theories on WHAT fatigues your nervous system or how to measure it, but what we do know is that max or high percentage submaximal lifting can degrade your absolute power output, fine motor control etc.

Mental Focus = the degree of concentration and motivation needed to perform a workout well.  High focus workouts must be used sparingly as they are mentally exhausting.

Energy Substrates = ATP, CP, glucose etc.  This category is a measurement of how much energy will be burned during a workout and therefore how much “feeding” and replenishment time is needed to return to maximum performance.  Note that low energy substrate levels DO impact limit strength, but on a relatively localized level (barring low energy levels from extreme exercise or dieting) so a long run should not negatively impact your bench press to a significant degree.

Trauma = is a measure of microtrauma primarily to the type II fibers.  The greater the trauma the greater the recovery needed.  Note that microtrauma does not have a large absolute (mechanical) impact on short term limit strength although it will hinder your focus and make it nearly impossible to perform at your peak (lifting while sore is not easy).

Notice how the week is structured with it gradually shifting from “mental focus” (heavy lifting) to “energy focus” (distance work) permitting the completion of all of the workouts while keeping motivation high and recovery balanced.

The above template is just an example to hopefully elucidate the underlying concepts.  It will return MUCH better results than simply going out and getting in a few miles every other day.

I do want to make one last point.  If your goal is to improve endurance while maintaining a high level of strength it is not advisable to seek the counsel of pure runners or the like.  Most endurance coaches, no matter how outstanding they may be, understand only what is most effective for dedicated (i.e. dedicated to nothing but) endurance athletes.  Even those couch to 5k routines on the internet can result in actual overtraining or complete stagnation/regression in your strength.

In the next installment I will delve a bit more into the specifics of aerobic adaptation and how to structure your combined routines over time to optimize results.  I’ll also discuss running form for big people and give some examples on ways to improve it.

Author Alex Viada is an NSCA Certified Strength and Conditioning Specialist and USA Triathlon coach.  He has over ten years of training and coaching experience for athletes of all ages and experience levels. He is also co-founder of Complete Human Performance, (http://www.completehumanperformance.com) a company dedicated to bringing top level multi-sport training to all athletes with a special focus on the specific needs of athletes with disabilities.  He competes in endurance cycling events, marathons, and in the next three months (with the support of AtLarge Nutrition) aims to compete in his first Ironman distance triathlon while gunning for an elite Powerlifting total in the 220 weight class. He is currently pursuing an advanced degree in Physiology and a highly rigorous self-taught course on home brewing beer the latter of which has better homework.

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